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The relationship between the United States and Brazil has always been complex, especially when it comes to military issues. Between 1930 and 1970, the United States never sold battleships or aircraft carriers to the Brazilian Navy.
During the 1930s, the Brazilian fleet was stagnant. The Brazilian Navy sought support from the United States to modernize its navy. At the time, the United States wanted to strengthen ties with Latin American countries to prevent them from getting closer to enemies like Germany and Italy. This American interest opened doors for Brazil.
In 1937, with American help, Brazil began building Marcilio Dias class destroyers, based on American models. During World War II, the United States continued to provide support, including Cannon-class escort destroyers.
Despite this collaboration, the United States never sold larger ships such as battleships or aircraft carriers to Brazil.
On several occasions, requests from the Brazilian Navy were refused. For example, in 1936 and 1937, Brazil requested obsolete Omaha-class and Wickes-class ships, but the American government refused. During World War II, Brazil planned to acquire larger ships, including Independence-class aircraft carriers and Nevada-class battleships.
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However, the United States opposed these requests. They believed that Brazil did not need such a large fleet and that the cost of operating these ships was too high. The United States wanted to ensure that Brazil did not have a fleet superior to that of other countries in the region and preferred that Brazil depend on American support for sovereignty issues.
Furthermore, they believed that Brazil should focus on improving its infrastructure and transportation, rather than investing in expensive warships.
This American stance led the Brazilian Navy to seriously consider purchasing British ships. From the 1970s onwards, Brazil began to develop its own naval industry with British support, building Niterói-class frigates and acquiring Oberon-class submarines.
Despite the negatives and the complexity of relations, the United States and the Brazil maintained a strategic relationship. Eventually, the Americans realized the importance of supporting the Brazilian Navy and began to offer other types of ships. However, they never sold battleships or aircraft carriers to Brazil. This marked an era of learning and adaptation for the Brazilian Navy, which sought to develop its own naval capabilities and diversify its suppliers.
The US does not want to see Brazil grow, it wanted and will always want to be the rich people at the expense of the poverty of other countries.
This was the case with bicycle factories, of which Brazil had 10, and this was the case with the Gurgel electric car, and this was the case with oil refineries, etc., etc.
They do this in such a dangerous way that even commenting on social media to influence is a crime to express ideas and opinions.
They want freedom just for them
I agree with you, André Luiz Alberto Moore. The US wants Brazil to be subservient. General Laura Richardson herself said that Brazil is like a North American state in South America. Meanwhile, the Army buys the Black Walker with a series of restrictions and the Atmos system from Israel, leaving the Avibras on the verge of being sold to foreign companies. The Navy commander stops buying armored vehicles manufactured here and buys from the Americans. The FAB stops investing in the development and production of national drones and buys Israeli ones, just as they are looking for a training aircraft, even though AKAER already manufactures an aircraft with the Turks. Those who should defend Brazil the most are not doing so. When I served in the glorious Air Force, I swore an oath to defend this nation by sacrificing my own life, but what we see is the top brass handing the country over to foreign interests, unfortunately.
You are absolutely right, a while ago I made some comments that were contrary to the interests of the United States, and a few months later I noticed that some American citizens were asking me for information about other people, and I was suspicious, strange, right?
THEY WILL NEVER BE OUR TRUE FRIENDS OR PARTNERS. THEY PREFER ISRAEL TO BE A MUNICIPALITY INSTALLED IN THE DESERT. THESE AMERICANS ARE MEDIOCRE AND **** PEOPLE. SO LET'S BE FRIENDS WITH THE RUSSIANS AND CHINESE AND GO AWAY FROM THESE **** AMERICANS.
This is normal in international geopolitics. The US is not going to create a pitbull in its backyard that could later bite its hands. Throughout history, we have seen the Americans make this kind of mistake repeatedly, such as the CIA's support for the mujahideen in the war in Afghanistan against the Soviet invasion. After that, these guys became the Taliban and are still giving the US a hard time. 😂😂
We don't need these ****, American junk.
Today we have China and other countries with much superior technology.
I agree, Paulo Bianchi. We have other BRIC partners who are more advanced in this regard. Here in Brazil, we have Petrobras, which has experience in building large ships. Why not make an agreement to build large ships for the Navy? We have the Itaguaí industrial complex, and here in Fortaleza, we have a shipyard that builds patrol vessels. So why not expand our construction capacity? It's simple. We have to be subservient to the US and the Europeans. The world is changing. The US and Europe are sinking and are about to cause World War III. What about Brazil? Will it sink with it?
You touched on a very important issue that our partners have new cutting-edge technologies and the subservience of our forces to the United States and Europe!
And if we don't take advantage now and manufacture our own defense equipment, we will become subservient to our new partners as well!
We have shipyards, high-quality steel and a lot of labor, but apparently for decades, if not centuries, there has never been any interest in modernizing the Brazilian fleet...
Brazil urgently needs to invest in its defense industry, save Avibras, invest in the various shipyards that are inoperative, thus guaranteeing workers' jobs and improving our economy.
It was an evil that “brought” a good. Some time ago the US had agreed to sell fighter jets, but they were already ready, without the technology and without manufacturing permission.
Today we have our A-29 Super Tucano, the A-1M manufactured in Brazil/Italy and mainly the supersonic Gripen F-39 manufactured in Sweden.
The trend is to improve our technology.🙏
As long as we pay the Swedes for the Gripen, that's fine...but the defense bills are not worth it! We live off a few deals and Boeing tripped up Embraer and we're left with the expense...we don't see ERJs with serious defects, but Boeings have serious problems!